Do you geniuenly think it matters at this point how much people approve? Look in France for example with the yellow vests, they were in the street for 2 years and nothing happened.
I believed epstein would be a major scandal giving how both journalists on the left and right were bewieldered by the suicide and demanded answers.
I thought Corona would wake people up on the problems with having manufacturing based mostly in China, and the democrats would never recover after encouraging people to party in China town or else they are bigots. And how they frowned at trump for closing the border with China.
At this point I wonder if the system is not so corrupt and people so complacent that significant change is next to impossible
You got a point. Maybe if those unseen Puppet Masters would keep things just as they are right now, they might be able to keep this status quo. But I don't think they can do that, I don't think they can help themselves. I think they have to keep pushing the envelope. I don't think they'll be happy until they achieve the serfdom that they've always wanted.
Unfortunately for them and fortunately for everyone else, I don't think the American people will be willing to live under such circumstances for long.
The Gillet Janus in France will have the last laugh. Macron is wounded now and he himself without any prompting will walk over the cliff edge. His hubris will not allow him to see his own mistakes. The philosophy he is holding on to or has been instructed to hold on to will be his downfall. You cannot abdicate your responsibility to the 'people' that put you there and expect the outcome of the betrayal to be a magical love affair; that circle I am afraid cannot be squared. The only other solution is to rig the election coming. That is also entirely a possible outcome.
In my opinion, pollsters and journalists have lost all credibility. I think they have destroyed the trust of the American people to their own detriment.
agreed, it will backfire on them, I look forward to the day when everyone gets their news from independent content creators and independent sources rather than listening to "journalists" from msm
I tend to look at YouTube likes to dislikes as a more bi partisan polling method. In 2016 if you looked at news videos / personal YouTube pages between Hillary and Trump they were actually semi close but with Trump edging her out with more likes as the race drew closer. With Biden it's not even that... On completely partisan YouTube channels like CNN Biden is getting ratioed to hell. The Whitehouse page is getting ratioed with every video they upload as are the majority of every mainstream news channel. Leading up to the 2020 election he was ratioed too. I cannot believe the man has anywhere near 60% approval. I'm sure if we knew the real numbers it would be shocking
You have been measured, you have been counted and now the Gates are falling with your capital surrounded for lack of oil and cereal costing 40 percents of your people's pay. Circus entertainment will not deter Nuremberg tribunals gifting a swing set to useful idiots and sympathisers because cities were left empty.
I have always thought of polling as facets of marketing anyway. Think of that movie you have been hearing about. You have a few types of consumers: those who will watch the movie for the franchise ( a D or and R after their names), those who watch because of a certain actor or actress (the marketed image of that politician) or those who watch because they liked the trailer (usually heavily edited to make the movie seem better than it is (insert MSM nonsense).
Leading up to the election it became obvious the pollsters were either lying or failing to properly perform their polling. You could see this in both state and senate polling. In addition comparing the typical college poll with serious pollsters like Trafalgar and Rick Baris`s Big Data revealed significant differences. I relied on Baris's polling and analysis both during and after the election. Here are some of the reasons the polling may be off based on my understanding of his analysis.
First polling response rates are very low about 3% and there is difficulty getting a proportionate share from geographic areas. Finally, some voters for example males over 45 are poll resistant. Baris addressed these problems by over sampling and by targeting the hard to poll individuals. His polling got close to the final counts as did Trafalgar who I understood uses the same techniques. I see the pollsters current polling as a combination of bad polling techniques and politically motivated polling.
Hey styx, veeh here.
Do you geniuenly think it matters at this point how much people approve? Look in France for example with the yellow vests, they were in the street for 2 years and nothing happened.
I believed epstein would be a major scandal giving how both journalists on the left and right were bewieldered by the suicide and demanded answers.
I thought Corona would wake people up on the problems with having manufacturing based mostly in China, and the democrats would never recover after encouraging people to party in China town or else they are bigots. And how they frowned at trump for closing the border with China.
At this point I wonder if the system is not so corrupt and people so complacent that significant change is next to impossible
You got a point. Maybe if those unseen Puppet Masters would keep things just as they are right now, they might be able to keep this status quo. But I don't think they can do that, I don't think they can help themselves. I think they have to keep pushing the envelope. I don't think they'll be happy until they achieve the serfdom that they've always wanted.
Unfortunately for them and fortunately for everyone else, I don't think the American people will be willing to live under such circumstances for long.
The Gillet Janus in France will have the last laugh. Macron is wounded now and he himself without any prompting will walk over the cliff edge. His hubris will not allow him to see his own mistakes. The philosophy he is holding on to or has been instructed to hold on to will be his downfall. You cannot abdicate your responsibility to the 'people' that put you there and expect the outcome of the betrayal to be a magical love affair; that circle I am afraid cannot be squared. The only other solution is to rig the election coming. That is also entirely a possible outcome.
head med and shrinks....
In my opinion, pollsters and journalists have lost all credibility. I think they have destroyed the trust of the American people to their own detriment.
agreed, it will backfire on them, I look forward to the day when everyone gets their news from independent content creators and independent sources rather than listening to "journalists" from msm
I tend to look at YouTube likes to dislikes as a more bi partisan polling method. In 2016 if you looked at news videos / personal YouTube pages between Hillary and Trump they were actually semi close but with Trump edging her out with more likes as the race drew closer. With Biden it's not even that... On completely partisan YouTube channels like CNN Biden is getting ratioed to hell. The Whitehouse page is getting ratioed with every video they upload as are the majority of every mainstream news channel. Leading up to the 2020 election he was ratioed too. I cannot believe the man has anywhere near 60% approval. I'm sure if we knew the real numbers it would be shocking
You can know the real numbers (on the WH youtube channel at least) - go to 81m.org
Whenever I read polling numbers or graphs and charts meant to "tell" me something, I think of the saying, "figures don't lie, but liars can figure"...
You have been measured, you have been counted and now the Gates are falling with your capital surrounded for lack of oil and cereal costing 40 percents of your people's pay. Circus entertainment will not deter Nuremberg tribunals gifting a swing set to useful idiots and sympathisers because cities were left empty.
I have always thought of polling as facets of marketing anyway. Think of that movie you have been hearing about. You have a few types of consumers: those who will watch the movie for the franchise ( a D or and R after their names), those who watch because of a certain actor or actress (the marketed image of that politician) or those who watch because they liked the trailer (usually heavily edited to make the movie seem better than it is (insert MSM nonsense).
Leading up to the election it became obvious the pollsters were either lying or failing to properly perform their polling. You could see this in both state and senate polling. In addition comparing the typical college poll with serious pollsters like Trafalgar and Rick Baris`s Big Data revealed significant differences. I relied on Baris's polling and analysis both during and after the election. Here are some of the reasons the polling may be off based on my understanding of his analysis.
First polling response rates are very low about 3% and there is difficulty getting a proportionate share from geographic areas. Finally, some voters for example males over 45 are poll resistant. Baris addressed these problems by over sampling and by targeting the hard to poll individuals. His polling got close to the final counts as did Trafalgar who I understood uses the same techniques. I see the pollsters current polling as a combination of bad polling techniques and politically motivated polling.
Tarl, these are epic.
Regardless of however they do the polls we all know it's fake, Biden doesn't even have a 63 percent approval from his own party much less nation wide
well stated. push polling, right? normal folks don't even question the numbers. like sheep led to slaughter....or more taxes....
At this point. Let them reap what they sow